What to Make of Afghanistan?

[Dr.D]

Well Let's stir a new pot why don't we. What a mess this is. I know there is a lot of blame being cast about here in this country but you have to ask, what is the role of the people there? Are we to blame for not controlling the world?

I know this thread is a mistake.😆

[1olbull]

Same as Nam -
SHOULDA NEVER WENT THERE!!!
So many young lives wasted, so many more ruined. 😢😢😢

[atlsrt44]

Oldbull hit it on the head. Iraq will follow suit. Weve already had to bail them out once

[Dr.D]

Who made us the police and savior of the world? If we were at one time able to do this I don't believe we have the money or political capital to try this shit now. We are barely able to secure our own country. On second thought we are doing that at all so fuck the other shit hole places of the world. The Muslim middle east should left alone to reap what they sow. Uh oh I let my real feelings out.😥

[Warp9.9]

I have a different opinion some may think its cruel

[1K9]

Taiwan is next. Been telling you to learn mandarin like the canadian bozo movie actor.

[Dr.D]

I have a different opinion some may think its cruel

Wow some one as radical as me. I’m sure there are some fine people there but by the looks of most of the photos it’s full of violent religious obsessed cruel people. The least we can do is leave them be forever. BUT if they leave their sand box and export their shit turn the sand to glass.

[EasTexOutlaw]

This will absolutely be blundering Biden’s legacy

[1K9]

[1K9]

Welll? Now, instead of keeping 3000 soldiers policing order in Afghanistan, we are going to import all Afghanis that don't want to live under taliban rule.

Ill tell you.... let's leave south Korea an see what happens. Let's abandon policing our south border and see what happens. Diplomacy my ass. Sometimes the only way to maintain peace and order is with high caliber force.

There is a master plan to totally destroy the America most of us grew up in and have been living in. The only reason I can see is so they, those in power, remain in power. The rest of us... shut-up, live in fear or else, obey or else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oedAXMq7E8I

[barbagris]

So you too have learned the same lessons as the British and Russians. But it applies elsewhere - You cannot make anybody conform to your precepts. If they don't want to, they will not and eventually they usually win. Short memories. Or are you ready to become colonies again.

[1K9]

They want to live like us, in peace, but were invaded by the neo-moores, now armed with guns, planes and bombs instead of horses and sables. You are right...we did not learn from the brits and russians, we are displaying the same weakness.

[Dr.D]

Agreed completely but I think we’ll just remain a country in decline all on our own.

[barbagris]

There is a master plan totally destroy the America most of us grew up in and have been living in.

Unless of course - a huge proportion have not particularly enjoyed living that way - and demand change. Oh wait! - they call that democracy.

[1K9]

So Barba, what is Democracy? For me it is the illusion that the opinion of all counts. But most people think that it is a state where the majority, the mob, rules. It is like communism, it is the illusion that there is some sort of commune where ALL benefit equally from the riches of the state. Both are bullshit. There is a ruling class... the governing aristocracy, their servants, oligarchs and the rest of us... we are the plebe.

For quite a while America felt like a Democratic Republic where order, reason and justice seemed to rule. This has deteriorated into mob rule and a dictatorship by some dressed in capitolian robes. We are done. It is over. The worse has been the exporting of our factories and the importing of oil, medicine and basic goods so that a few oligarchs can have seven castles and yachts with helicopter pads. Look at the wealth of zina and the middle east big cities. They look like NewYork in the 50s. New, tall and beautiful. As of recent years the worse plague of all has been the technological ability to control the flow of ideas and outcome of the so called elections. What was a promising tool has become a method of subversion. It controls the minds of most. Threaten people with taking their cellphones away and you will see. They will trade sex, sleep and food for their cellphones.

The role of the capitolians is to remain in power by sending the plebe electronic money. Now, they are importing voters because the national plebe smells their scam. Barba, we are toast. Even those near the top will fall, soon. Lesser and lesser will have more and more and the communists will promise the fix that to get into power. You will have nothing and be happy they preach... hahaha, the aristocracy will have everything, we will be told to eat cake.

Learn mandarin

[barbagris]

Cellphones - Don't get me started on Cellphones. And the term "smartphone" - Oh boy. I have a friend who sells/provides Visa (type) Card services. We were discussing last month the MONTROUS security flaws in all banking systems that use cellphone 2FA.

True democracy has not existed since the first Viking colony on Iceland - where it still exists.
It existed pre-PaxRomanus. The Roman model however is EXCELLENT for those keen to RULE.
The Mayan model is way less attractive to those who rule.

The problem is that History is written by those keen to cover their inadequacies, but who won anyway.

[barbagris]

what is the role of the people there?

Growing Opium poppies for shipment to the US!.

[barbagris]

Spain news - well simply - I don't watch it - any of it. I wait for Mrs B. to tell me stuff. And working for a town hall gives me access to less news still. What I do is observe and listen to the "ether". And then use my own brain to form a personal view of "Life, the universe, and ...... everything". This may sound rather "airey fairey", but watching how others behave tells me more about the great wild world than the TV ever can. Mrs B is very Left Wing - I stand a bit to the right of "I really don't GAF". There is MUCH in the world I disapprove of. Much I disdain. And professional politics is very high on that list. We (collectively) have allowed a system to build that is self serving. Whinging about it - whilst internally comforting - does little. Oh I could go on and on - but it all comes down to massively reducing World population to a point where Nature can retake control.

[1K9]

Who is Mrs.B?

[barbagris]

Mrs B? - the missus!

[atlsrt44]

Unless of course - a huge proportion have not particularly enjoyed living that way - and demand change. Oh wait! - they call that democracy.

The founders detested democracies.
And unfortunately our republic can only work with a moral people. I think we are beyond that point.

[barbagris]

And unfortunately our republic can only work with a moral people. I think we are beyond that point.

Or have yet to achieve it!. Though I am inclined to agree with you.