Did anyone watch the fiasco last night on the debates.

[EasTexOutlaw]

[Tripps]

Anyone see Carey as Biden on SNL? Pretty good impression.

[EasTexOutlaw]

Well, VP Pence knocked it outa the park last night.
That woman is nothing but a condescending arrogant bitch. But I’m so glad that she took the time on 3 different occasions to explain to us pions what her big words meant 🙄

[Dr.D]

I wish Pence would have answered the questions more directly and simply. I thought some of the questions were leading and biased towards Harris.. Smirky bitch.

[EasTexOutlaw]

Someone did a bit of homework on the Historically-Horrible First Debate. This is NOT my work. But, they did an amazing job. It's fact-checked, as well. Here's what they wrote...

I focused on details. I pulled out my stop watch and I timed every single word for each candidate. How long did they talk, how many times did they interrupt the other, etc. Here are my findings. They are unbiased. I also included unbiased fact check that has also been peer reviewed and fact checked against many different articles and sources.

First is how much time did each candidate get to speak.

●TRUMP had a total of 24 minutes and 9 seconds.

●BIDEN had a total of 33 minutes and 4 seconds.

During this debate, each candidate and even the moderator interrupted the others substantially.

●TRUMP interrupted Biden 64 times

●BIDEN interrupted Trump 57 times

Moderator CHRIS WALLACE Interrupted

● Trump 21 times

● Biden 5 times

Both Candidates were asked questions regarding condoning/condemning hate groups .

●TRUMP was asked if her would condemn white supremacists groups. Trump said "yea sure, I'm willing to do that" Chris Wallace asked again and Trump asked what group would you like me to say? Biden then retorted Proud Boys. Trump then said "Proud Boys Stand down and Stand By"

●Biden was asked if he supported BLM, he did not answer nor did he even recognize the question about BLM

BIDEN brought up his son and said that Trump called him a loser and his son was a hero who received a "Brown star" Trump responded by asking which son, he stated he didn't know Beau but did know about Hunter and his dishonorable discharge as well as receiving 3.5 million dollars from Moscow.

●There is no such thing as a "Brown star". There is a Bronze Star, which is given for heroic acts. Beau Biden was presented with a Bronze Star for his service in 2008.

●Trump's camp has denied the report from The Atlantic that said Trump called dead WW1 soldiers losers . Those present that day all deny hearing Trump say that, including Trump nemesis John Bolton.

● 87 page Senate Report shown wire transfers to Hunter Biden from Elena Baturina, wife of former mayor of Moscow. Those transfers included 3.5 million in Feb. 2014. As well as "several payments of several hundred thousand dollars" in 2015.

Biden also claimed the US owes more money to China now than when Trump took office. (They do. PPE brought in to fight the virus from China was expensive!)

●US debt is roughly 26 Trillion dollars. Of that Japan owns 5.2% and China owns 4.6%. Other countries also own substantial US debt including but not limited to UK, Brazil, Ireland, Cayman Islands, Hong Kong, Belgium, and Switzerland.

●In Oct.2016, China owns 1.12 Trillion of US debt.

●As of Aug. 2020, China owns 1.7 Trillion of US debt.

BIDEN claimed that Antifa is "an idea not an organization. That’s what Trump’s FBI director said.”

Biden appeared to be referencing testimony by FBI Director Christopher Wray earlier this month during which he said Antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” including into individuals who identify with Antifa.

Antifa first had roots in Germany in the 20s/30s. The movement came to the US in the 70s/80s and gained notoriety and was more prominent in the last 10 years. While it started as an Anti Fascist movement, they have since became organized and have many cell groups such as Rose City Antifa out of Portland. Many of the cells claim organization status, receive many donations-- as well as tax deductions.

I went through very thoroughly and documented insults, here is the following

●TRUMP told Biden "There's nothing smart about you" as a retort to Biden telling Trump to be smarter.

●TRUMP also criticized Biden on rally attendance stating "If you could get the crowds, you would have done the same thing".

●TRUMP criticized Biden on wearing masks, saying "Every time you see him, he's wearing a mask" “He could be speaking 200 feet away from it. And he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen."

●BIDEN called Trump Racist

●BIDEN called Trump a clown twice

●BIDEN called Trump a liar

●BIDEN referred to the President as "Donald", "Old Buddy ", "This Man", "Putin's Puppy" on several occasions.

●BIDEN told Trump that he was the "wrong guy, wrong night, wrong time" .

●BIDEN told Trump to "Keep yapping man"

●BIDEN asked Trump "Will you shut up man?"

Those are the facts of the 1st Presidential Debate. I'm not sure this haze has lifted but I at least was able to clear it a little to get to the details....God help us and May God Bless America. Let’s try to agree to disagree.

[1olbull]

VERY interesting!
Gratitude for sharing.

[Dr.D]

😂

Someone did a bit of homework on the Historically-Horrible First Debate. This is NOT my work. But, they did an amazing job. It's fact-checked, as well. Here's what they wrote...

I focused on details. I pulled out my stop watch and I timed every single word for each candidate. How long did they talk, how many times did they interrupt the other, etc. Here are my findings. They are unbiased. I also included unbiased fact check that has also been peer reviewed and fact checked against many different articles and sources.

First is how much time did each candidate get to speak.

●TRUMP had a total of 24 minutes and 9 seconds.

●BIDEN had a total of 33 minutes and 4 seconds.

During this debate, each candidate and even the moderator interrupted the others substantially.

●TRUMP interrupted Biden 64 times

●BIDEN interrupted Trump 57 times

Moderator CHRIS WALLACE Interrupted

● Trump 21 times

● Biden 5 times

Both Candidates were asked questions regarding condoning/condemning hate groups .

●TRUMP was asked if her would condemn white supremacists groups. Trump said "yea sure, I'm willing to do that" Chris Wallace asked again and Trump asked what group would you like me to say? Biden then retorted Proud Boys. Trump then said "Proud Boys Stand down and Stand By"

●Biden was asked if he supported BLM, he did not answer nor did he even recognize the question about BLM

BIDEN brought up his son and said that Trump called him a loser and his son was a hero who received a "Brown star" Trump responded by asking which son, he stated he didn't know Beau but did know about Hunter and his dishonorable discharge as well as receiving 3.5 million dollars from Moscow.

●There is no such thing as a "Brown star". There is a Bronze Star, which is given for heroic acts. Beau Biden was presented with a Bronze Star for his service in 2008.

●Trump's camp has denied the report from The Atlantic that said Trump called dead WW1 soldiers losers . Those present that day all deny hearing Trump say that, including Trump nemesis John Bolton.

● 87 page Senate Report shown wire transfers to Hunter Biden from Elena Baturina, wife of former mayor of Moscow. Those transfers included 3.5 million in Feb. 2014. As well as "several payments of several hundred thousand dollars" in 2015.

Biden also claimed the US owes more money to China now than when Trump took office. (They do. PPE brought in to fight the virus from China was expensive!)

●US debt is roughly 26 Trillion dollars. Of that Japan owns 5.2% and China owns 4.6%. Other countries also own substantial US debt including but not limited to UK, Brazil, Ireland, Cayman Islands, Hong Kong, Belgium, and Switzerland.

●In Oct.2016, China owns 1.12 Trillion of US debt.

●As of Aug. 2020, China owns 1.7 Trillion of US debt.

BIDEN claimed that Antifa is "an idea not an organization. That’s what Trump’s FBI director said.”

Biden appeared to be referencing testimony by FBI Director Christopher Wray earlier this month during which he said Antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” including into individuals who identify with Antifa.

Antifa first had roots in Germany in the 20s/30s. The movement came to the US in the 70s/80s and gained notoriety and was more prominent in the last 10 years. While it started as an Anti Fascist movement, they have since became organized and have many cell groups such as Rose City Antifa out of Portland. Many of the cells claim organization status, receive many donations-- as well as tax deductions.

I went through very thoroughly and documented insults, here is the following

●TRUMP told Biden "There's nothing smart about you" as a retort to Biden telling Trump to be smarter.

●TRUMP also criticized Biden on rally attendance stating "If you could get the crowds, you would have done the same thing".

●TRUMP criticized Biden on wearing masks, saying "Every time you see him, he's wearing a mask" “He could be speaking 200 feet away from it. And he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen."

●BIDEN called Trump Racist

●BIDEN called Trump a clown twice

●BIDEN called Trump a liar

●BIDEN referred to the President as "Donald", "Old Buddy ", "This Man", "Putin's Puppy" on several occasions.

●BIDEN told Trump that he was the "wrong guy, wrong night, wrong time" .

●BIDEN told Trump to "Keep yapping man"

●BIDEN asked Trump "Will you shut up man?"

Those are the facts of the 1st Presidential Debate. I'm not sure this haze has lifted but I at least was able to clear it a little to get to the details....God help us and May God Bless America. Let’s try to agree to disagree.

I guess that makes Biden the clear winner. Just ask any news agency.

[Tripps]

Someone did a bit of homework on the Historically-Horrible First Debate. This is NOT my work. But, they did an amazing job. It's fact-checked, as well. Here's what they wrote...

I focused on details. I pulled out my stop watch and I timed every single word for each candidate. How long did they talk, how many times did they interrupt the other, etc. Here are my findings. They are unbiased. I also included unbiased fact check that has also been peer reviewed and fact checked against many different articles and sources.

First is how much time did each candidate get to speak.

●TRUMP had a total of 24 minutes and 9 seconds.

●BIDEN had a total of 33 minutes and 4 seconds.

During this debate, each candidate and even the moderator interrupted the others substantially.

●TRUMP interrupted Biden 64 times

●BIDEN interrupted Trump 57 times

Moderator CHRIS WALLACE Interrupted

● Trump 21 times

● Biden 5 times

Both Candidates were asked questions regarding condoning/condemning hate groups .

●TRUMP was asked if her would condemn white supremacists groups. Trump said "yea sure, I'm willing to do that" Chris Wallace asked again and Trump asked what group would you like me to say? Biden then retorted Proud Boys. Trump then said "Proud Boys Stand down and Stand By"

●Biden was asked if he supported BLM, he did not answer nor did he even recognize the question about BLM

BIDEN brought up his son and said that Trump called him a loser and his son was a hero who received a "Brown star" Trump responded by asking which son, he stated he didn't know Beau but did know about Hunter and his dishonorable discharge as well as receiving 3.5 million dollars from Moscow.

●There is no such thing as a "Brown star". There is a Bronze Star, which is given for heroic acts. Beau Biden was presented with a Bronze Star for his service in 2008.

●Trump's camp has denied the report from The Atlantic that said Trump called dead WW1 soldiers losers . Those present that day all deny hearing Trump say that, including Trump nemesis John Bolton.

● 87 page Senate Report shown wire transfers to Hunter Biden from Elena Baturina, wife of former mayor of Moscow. Those transfers included 3.5 million in Feb. 2014. As well as "several payments of several hundred thousand dollars" in 2015.

Biden also claimed the US owes more money to China now than when Trump took office. (They do. PPE brought in to fight the virus from China was expensive!)

●US debt is roughly 26 Trillion dollars. Of that Japan owns 5.2% and China owns 4.6%. Other countries also own substantial US debt including but not limited to UK, Brazil, Ireland, Cayman Islands, Hong Kong, Belgium, and Switzerland.

●In Oct.2016, China owns 1.12 Trillion of US debt.

●As of Aug. 2020, China owns 1.7 Trillion of US debt.

BIDEN claimed that Antifa is "an idea not an organization. That’s what Trump’s FBI director said.”

Biden appeared to be referencing testimony by FBI Director Christopher Wray earlier this month during which he said Antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” including into individuals who identify with Antifa.

Antifa first had roots in Germany in the 20s/30s. The movement came to the US in the 70s/80s and gained notoriety and was more prominent in the last 10 years. While it started as an Anti Fascist movement, they have since became organized and have many cell groups such as Rose City Antifa out of Portland. Many of the cells claim organization status, receive many donations-- as well as tax deductions.

I went through very thoroughly and documented insults, here is the following

●TRUMP told Biden "There's nothing smart about you" as a retort to Biden telling Trump to be smarter.

●TRUMP also criticized Biden on rally attendance stating "If you could get the crowds, you would have done the same thing".

●TRUMP criticized Biden on wearing masks, saying "Every time you see him, he's wearing a mask" “He could be speaking 200 feet away from it. And he shows up with the biggest mask I’ve ever seen."

●BIDEN called Trump Racist

●BIDEN called Trump a clown twice

●BIDEN called Trump a liar

●BIDEN referred to the President as "Donald", "Old Buddy ", "This Man", "Putin's Puppy" on several occasions.

●BIDEN told Trump that he was the "wrong guy, wrong night, wrong time" .

●BIDEN told Trump to "Keep yapping man"

●BIDEN asked Trump "Will you shut up man?"

Those are the facts of the 1st Presidential Debate. I'm not sure this haze has lifted but I at least was able to clear it a little to get to the details....God help us and May God Bless America. Let’s try to agree to disagree.

I'm not sure which debate the author saw, but this is the one I saw
Just remember, people can put anything on the internet.

[EasTexOutlaw]

Just remember, people can put anything on the internet.
😎

[Tripps]

Except I watched it. 😉

[EasTexOutlaw]

Watch it tonite. I bet it’ll be off the rails 🤓

[Idaho Red Rocket 3]

Somebody please count how many time the mute button is used for each candidate.

[Tripps]

I have to say, I'm impressed so far, I didn't think he had it in him,but Trump has been in control of himself so far, this is as good as I've seen him in 4 years. Biden needs to tone down the smirks and eyerolls, it was understandable the first debate, but it's doing him no favors this time. Definitely not as entertaining as the first one, though, lol.

[Dr.D]

It is much better looking tonight for Trump. Of course the Dems will claim Biden won. The moderator is doing a great job and appears quite neutral.

[Tripps]

Lol, Karen just said she did really good, I'm not so sure about the other two. 😄😄😄 I thought it was a pretty good debate, but everyone is so polarized these days, I doubt it changed anyone's mind. I would say they both did better than I expected in the areas I didn't expect them to do well in. I would call it a draw, if you put personal preference aside

[1olbull]

A draw? HA!
Perhaps some eyes opened up regarding Biden's corruptions and will start to look into it.

[Tripps]

Some people are able to look at things objectively, not through an extreme partisan lens. 😉

[1olbull]

Chris
I am indeed conservative, but I work hard to keep an open mind.
Biden is addled. He talkes in circles and has no basis for his statements. He lied about the loss of private insurance where many thousands were victimized by the ACA which did raise costs for those with private policies.
BTW - You do recall that Biden left his last run for pres because of creditsbility issues?

[Tripps]

I think it was plagiarism, right? I'm not a Biden fan in any way, fwiw. I just didn't think either one did bad in areas I expected them to be bad. Biden isn't a good public speaker, some people aren't, Bush Jr is another example. On the other hand Clinton and Obama were, that didn't make them good presidents, did it? 😉

[Mighty Mouse]

Independent here. Both did okay but Biden has a serious credibility problem. He ball faced lied on a few answers. Based on the liberals I know lying, cheating and violence aren't a big of a deal as some think. It's a end to a means so no big deal. In some areas it's a feather in their cap if the people believe them. It reminds me of the 60's and 70's when someone was on government assistance. The people on the assistance were embarrassed and did everything they could to get work. Now a days it's not a pride thing. If you get free money from the government then you are set because it is OWED to you. The object is to see how much you can fleece the Government for and brag about it on YouTube and to your lazy ass friends. People voting for Biden are voting for the Democratic party and not Biden. Scary Harris will be Prez within a year maybe two after crazy Pelosi 25th Amendments Biden. Crazy on crazy. I always laughed at the doom and gloom that was going to happen with Obama and Biden. I wasn't laughing after 8 years. Now I'm terrified the direction the radical left have taken. Scared shitless is a better example. Where's my meds??????