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    Good interview

    I doubt anyone here will read this, it's long, but this guy is a lifelong Republican, like me. I've been voting Republican since Reagan, and William F Buckley was one of my heroes, I used to subscribe to the National Review when he ran it. But I sat out the 2016 election, first one since I start voting in 1976. Pretty close to my feelings, you're entitled to yours, too

    POLITICO: 'He's Destroyed Conservatism': The Republican Case Against Trump's GOP.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...t-trump-397918

    #2
    I read it. He makes som valid points about the party. I’m sure the amount of lying manipulation is huge. So for me it comes to a choice of worse or worser.😩

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      #3
      Thank you for reading it

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        #4
        My dear Amigo,
        I read it. Too much BS to refute. Republicans were indeed created to fight Democrats - to fight racism and slavery!
        On second and third thought - no further comment . . .

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          #5
          Both parties are out of control. I hate the democratic ticket worse than the republican. I think even most republicans hate Trump because he is not really one of them. He is an outsider and has no political polish. He is brash and blunt many times chooses poor rhetoric that is not very constructive. It would be nice to have another outsider with a bit more tact.

          i certainly do not have the answers but I know what I dislike.

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            #6
            rktnmypkt for el presidente !

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              #7
              "Democracy was never intended to be transactional . . .
              It requires an active and informed citizenry."
              This is the most intelligent thing ever stated by Barry Soetoro.

              Now please ponder (after you look up transactional) just how informed the "Progressive" protestors, rioters, and assaulters are compared to the conservatives that we a see on the TV . . . ? ? ?

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                Originally posted by Tripps View Post
                I doubt anyone here will read this, it's long, but this guy is a lifelong Republican, like me. I've been voting Republican since Reagan, and William F Buckley was one of my heroes, I used to subscribe to the National Review when he ran it. But I sat out the 2016 election, first one since I start voting in 1976. Pretty close to my feelings, you're entitled to yours, too

                POLITICO: 'He's Destroyed Conservatism': The Republican Case Against Trump's GOP.
                https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...t-trump-397918
                Might we be contemporaries ? I too loved William F. Buckley and National Review. Ahhh, those were the days.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joesmoe View Post

                  Might we be contemporaries ? I too loved William F. Buckley and National Review. Ahhh, those were the days.
                  Buckley was a pompous ass, but he had the chops to back it up, lol. A friend, probably the last Stalinist communist in the world, taught at Harvard with Buckley, and also loved him. He said Buckley told him you fo your best to make good communists out of them, and I'll do my best to make good capitalists out of them, and may the best man win
                  Buckley famously was for the legalization of marijuana. The interviewer said, you? The most conservative man in America? Buckley said I never smoked marijuana, I never will smoke marijuana, I don't think marijuana is a good thing, but it doesn't fall under the purvey of what the government is supposed to do.
                  Now that's a true Conservative
                  Not what the party has become.

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                    #10
                    I was a lifelong Republican, because the, one, important, overriding difference between the parties, which everyone knows, without question, is that Democrats tax and spend, and Republicans are frugal with your money, I think we can all agree on that, right?
                    The only problem with that is that now, with the internet the actual facts are easily researched. It just ain't true. There's factual charts that show what party controlled the presidency, Senate, and House, year by year, and what the deficit is. Look it up, I did.
                    And we all know the stock market will do better under Republican than Democrat administrations, that's obvious. Except historically, the stock market rise was double, as a percentage, under Democrats vs Republicans. Not my opinion, just a fact
                    I have friends claim that yeah, Trump is a buffoon, but my 401k is doing great because of him.
                    Fact is, market rose 210% under Clinton, 182% under Obama, and only about 45% under Trump, last time I checked. But when Obama was in, the cry was "Wall Street isn't Main Street, remember? I do.
                    i no longer put a lot of faith in ideology and beliefs, I look up the facts.
                    And no, I'm still not a Democrat, and most likely you will continue to believe what you want to believe.
                    Carry on.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 1olbull View Post
                      "Democracy was never intended to be transactional . . .
                      It requires an active and informed citizenry."
                      This is the most intelligent thing ever stated by Barry Soetoro.

                      Now please ponder (after you look up transactional) just how informed the "Progressive" protestors, rioters, and assaulters are compared to the conservatives that we a see on the TV . . . ? ? ?
                      I will if you ponder, who's better informed, the commentators on CNN, or skin head, Aryan Nation survivalists living in enclaves in Montana.
                      Silly comparisons. Those people are not typical Democrats, you know better. If you want to compete in a vocabulary test sometime, I'm your huckleberry. Hopefully you're better at vocabulary than budgetary predictions. ( That means figgerin' how much money theys gonna spend)
                      Last edited by Tripps; 08-22-2020, 01:32 PM. Reason: Busting Steve's balls

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Joesmoe View Post

                        Might we be contemporaries ? I too loved William F. Buckley and National Review. Ahhh, those were the days.
                        I reckon your Stevens is all wet!
                        Take a ponder at this chart regarding House & Senate control by President in office.
                        They make the laws!
                        They spend the money!
                        How much red do you see versus blue?


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                          Where's the charts for all the other presidents, Steve, lol? So I guess you're saying who's president doesn't really matter? I pretty much agree, re stock market. Just deconstructing the typical pro Trump argument. ( That means taking it apart and analysing it)

                          PS Trump had a republican Senate and House his first two years, debt went up around a trillion and a half.
                          Last edited by Tripps; 08-23-2020, 09:17 AM.

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                            #14
                            I had hoped Trump as a business man would have controlled debt better. I am disappointed. Now with the Covid stimulus we are really in bad shape. I’m buying gold as a hedge against inflation.

                            The US government spending is the worst enemy we can have. Do other countries accumulate debt like we do?

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dr.D View Post
                              I had hoped Trump as a business man would have controlled debt better. I am disappointed. Now with the Covid stimulus we are really in bad shape. I’m buying gold as a hedge against inflation.

                              The US government spending is the worst enemy we can have. Do other countries accumulate debt like we do?
                              Yes, they do, but we're not supposed to be a third world country. I'm of the same feelings, Doc, all the raging topics of today, kneeling or standing, illegal aliens, protesters, don't mean squat to me, personally. I was always a conservative primarily because I believed in fiscal responsibility. That, and they government only having the powers enumerated in the Constitution. Both those ideas went out the window, by both parties, long ago. A major reason why I pretty much consider myself unaffiliated any more. I expected as much from the Democrats, but Republicans broke my heart, they proved just as bad. Not less laws, just different laws. Not less spending, they just spent on different things. My 2 cents, anyway.

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