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      #17
      Oh that conceptual space between where I stop and we begins. Humankinds longest running struggle is trying to place a boundary where none may be possible. Those with an internal locus of control, such as Nietzsche, place the demarcation one place and others with an external locus of control would place it elsewhere. Neither can exist without the other.. The boundary may be more like a piece of glass viewed from either side where you can both see yourself reflected and see someone else on the other side simultaneously than we care to admit. The phenomenon works no matter where the glass is place between the two, or maybe the one?.

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      • Tripps
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        I must have sent you a cookie and forgotten .

      • barbagris
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        Only if the glass is perpendicular. Otherwise what you see reflected may not be you!. You're never alone with schizophrenia!,

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          #20
          If you put politics aside, and are honest with yourself, these traditional Stoic values represent everything Trump is not. Sorry, but it was never about politics for me it's about character. My father was further right than anyone I ever knew, he's been gone 33 years, but I know how he would feel.

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          • EasTexOutlaw
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            Being philosophic about life’s journey is one thing.
            Not liking someone’s style or character is a choice.
            People did not like general Patton but he was the man for the job in those times.
            On Nov 3 we have only two choices between a President who has done everything he said he would do unless it became impossible to overcome the blocking of the opposing party, and sometimes was still able to get it done anyway, and candidate who never accomplished anything in 47 years that didn’t benefit his family and who has let his party lead him on puppet strings to advanced socialism.
            That choice seams pretty easy by virtue of common sense vs philosophy.
            We need a general Patton not a Jane Fonda

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            #22
            Originally posted by Tripps View Post
            If you put politics aside, and are honest with yourself, these traditional Stoic values represent everything Trump is not. Sorry, but it was never about politics for me it's about character. My father was further right than anyone I ever knew, he's been gone 33 years, but I know how he would feel.

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            Me reckons you speak with forked tongue, Amigo.
            Ty Cobb was the biggest ass hole in baseball, but he was also one of the best - EVER at the game.
            JFK was a an unprincipled cock hound, yet a pretty good president - Same for Bill Clinton (although his republican house & senate did most of the good work).
            Quit judging the man's personality (which most do not care for) and judge the things he said he would do and has done for 'Merica!

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              #23
              Comparing JFK to Clinton gives way too much credit to Clinton, they weren’t even close to the same class.

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                #24
                As Trump himself said, "I could shoot someone on Main Street and my supporters wouldn't care".
                We'll have to agree to disagree, I stand by my original statement, putting politics aside, which many people seem unable to do, Trump does not display any of the tradition values that make a man a real man.

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                • Mad Dog
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                  I agree whole heartedly, problem is he still may be our best choice.

                • Tripps
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                  Everybody else gave me a political argument, lol. I'm always amazed at how often people don't refute what you actually said, they use the preexisting argument they had ready in their head.

                #25
                Silence is golden.
                Farts are funny.

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                • Sparky
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                  Espically if it comes WITH an asterick!

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                        A couple that are appropriate, given our average age here.

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